Posted by
Catmman on Monday, July 30, 2007 8:03:00 AM
I answered my critics challenge!
Actual "Live Blogging" from a Ron Paul rally I attended here in San Antonio on Saturday 28, July. Repost from yesterday:
Well, now that I've figured out how to get the pics my wife and I took yesterday to post on my blog, we can get started. (Thanks Josue on the old blog posts. Photobucket worked!)
First off, this is really the first political rally for a Presidential candidate I've ever attended. I explained I would go into it without preconceived notions and I wanted to be as objective and unbiased as possible.
I have been pretty critical of Mr. Paul, his campaign and his supporters over the last few months. I have received some pretty decent threats from Paul supporters as has been blogged about in these pages.
I have been especially critical of his maybe unintended support of 9/11 'Trutherism'. I don't agree with his stance on foreign policy (the whole isolationist vs. non-interventionist semantics) and how Mr. Pauls support by some 'kook fringers' is the reason he is looked at in the way he is. I also don't agree with his stance on drug legalization, nor to I support his policy on Iraq withdrawal.
I was pleasantly surprised by the lack of overt kookiness at the rally. There were no 'truthers', drug legalizers or what would be considered outright nutrootery in evidence out in the open as has been observed at other Paul venues. There may be several reasons for this:
1. Downtown San Antonio on a Saturday is chock full of active duty AF personnel. Having graduated basic military training the day before, they are given a "town pass" and a lot of them spend their day downtown. In addition to that, the other presence of retired and other active duty personnel in SA on the weekends would make for a volatile situation to say the least with anti-war loons and truthers in active presentation.
2. The rally was held literally across the street from the Alamo grounds. Now as a native Texan and one who believes in his heart in the ideals fought for by the Alamo defenders, this ground is hallowed and sacred. I know it has been corrupted as a tourist trap, but to someone like me, I would have been arrested before I would let such ground be desecrated by unhonorable scumbags.
3. It's Texas! The state, by and large is pretty conservative and again SA is a pretty pro military town, so the type of nutroot nonsense at other Paul venues would not have been tolerated, even by the general public.
Paul volunteers were also doing a pretty good job of 'policing' the crowd as well.
Allright, enough of that. Lets get to the details:
Originally, I was informed by a commenter that Mr. Paul would be in town for a dinner. Further investigation revealed a cost element I wasn't willing to partake in. I figured, dang, that's that. That was Friday night.
About 1100 on Saturday morning, I did a google search on Paul activities figuring maybe there would be other stuff going on besides the dinner. I was right. I learned there would be a public rally and press conference, all free beginning at 1200 and running until 1800. I figured this was what I was looking for so I rounded up my wife and youngest daughter and headed off downtown.
1400:
We found the Paul 'headquarters, as seen in these photos:


Pretty dead as you can see. But my wife, daughter and I ventured forth to see what we could see:

An obvious drug legalization sign. But this was the only one we saw through the entire afternoon, which I thought was good.

My daughter thought this was a clever sign.

Inside the Cavalry Museum (Paul's Rally Headquarters) we had a PC playing you tube video of Mr. Paul.

I didn't understand this sign at first. I can only surmise it's message is to support Paul since he votes no on a lot of stuff.
Wife my gathered some campaign material, some which only campaign volunteers had access too (God bless my wife). We spoke with some of the volunteers, asking when things would start up, etc, Just some general chit-chat The only obvious 'nutrootery' going on at this time was they had a recording of what I'll call 'conspiracy radio' talking about the anthrax vaccine. Seems the broadcasters were touting the negatives of it and stated: "We know the Generals will never take this stuff. They just make the 'expendable soldiers take it." and other such wackiness. This is patently false as I've witnessed firsthand. Music or anything else would have been a much better way to entice people in off the street.
At this point it was about 1430. It was hot and muggy. We decided to head inside for some chow and check back on the goings on around 1530. Se we did.

The obligatory "Me in front of the Alamo" pic. Obviously with a giant distended belly full of Mexican food and a few 'beverages'. Seriously, I never tire of this sight and love walking the Alamo grounds.


1525: Still dead. They did take my advice and put some music on. This guy played a great acoustic guitar. Too bad there wasn't really anyone there to hear it.
Due to lack of action at the Ron Paul camp, we decided to take part in the Houston St. Festival which was also going on in SA.


Couple of pics of the Alamo Defenders Memorial - Awesome!

Street performer. Not too bad. In the background is the Buckhorn Saloon where Mr. Pauls fundraising dinner was held later that night.
1700: After partaking in the street festivities, we head back to the Paul camp. Crowd has begun to show. Again not much kookiness on display, which was nice. But there was some:

Band at play...


Crowds forming. Dreadlock boy was talking up a 'connection' on the phone. I kid you not.

Pretty much self-explanatory...


Probably the best case of overt weirdness. Obvious Guy Fawkes fans, Bexar County Ron Paul volunteers, and a Code Pinker all rolled into one. In case your wondering, I asked just to be sure he wasn't just wearing a pink shirt. In my notes I wrote: "V for Vendetta? WTF?" then the reference clicked. Duh.
It was now about 1710 with 200-300 people al told.
1712: Ron Paul arrives...


My wife was snapping the picks at this time. I was taking notes. Yep, we were that close, which even though I don't support the guy, was kinda cool. Being so close to a Presidential candidate and all...
He began his speech talking about living in San Antonio back in the 60's and how the Vietnam era impacted his life. He spoke about non-interventionism and tied it all into war and how we need to stop the war and actually talked as if there was a draft right now. I thought that was odd..."We don't need the draft right now." were his words. He spoke how he is determined to stop the Iraq war now, (no mention of Afghanistan at all in his remarks BTW). And tied it all together into the economic impact of the war, how do we pay for the war, the Federal Reserve system getting rid of the IRS and taxes.
Not a bad speech as far as it goes, but no real mention of specifics. It was what I would think a standard 'stump' speech would be.
A lot of the problems he's talked about caused me to think, "This guy has been in Congress for twenty years, yet we still have these problems." I know he's only one guy, but this waxed a little to liberal for me. If you are speaking against a system which is as broke as you say it is, how do you justify being part of that system for so long without having fixed it?
I did like his few quick remarks on the 2nd amendment though - kudos.
He also spoke about the spontaneity of the internet and the effect younger people are having on his campaign as a result. This is something the other Republicans may want to take note of before dismissing the You Tube 'debates'. Just a thought.

I wonder what the guy behind Mr. Paul here is thinking? What part of his platform does he support? Yeah, I went there.


The Code Pinkers appear! Notice the sign at the left. My wife double checked, just to be sure. At least they weren't vocal.

Crowd listening to the 'stump'

Paul finishes speech. No Q&A here. We move onto the press conference location.



The obligatory "fist in the air". Also, the guy holding the banner on the right was probably the most annoying moron at this event. Once the rally began moving towards the press conference location, he would not shut up about, "Who's gonna end the Iraq War?" over and over and over.

Right in front with the media. Fielding more or less softball questions about leaving Iraq. "Staying will just cause more chaos, more Americans are going to die. We need to go." direct quote.
Was asked a nutball question about his policy of using depleted uranium in Iraq. Asked about Darfur. Stated, "It is chaos. But we need to do more than just drop in food. We use food as a weapon.", but offered no substantive response beyond that.
One thing also he was very happy about how we get along with Vietnam now, "We get along so much better nowadays with Vietnam. Trade and everything else. We don't intervene and we get along so much better." - direct quote.


Leaving the press conference and heading off to the fundraising dinner.
Well, that's it.
I can say that nothing he said changed my mind in not supporting the guy. I've stated my reasons. But the fact that there was very little overt nutroot weirdness at this rally made me feel good. Honest supporters of Ron Paul hopefully can start getting beyond the 'kooks' who began to undermine his message.
I've given what I hope my critics would see as a fair appraisal of Mr. Paul I tried to go in as open minded as possible and to be as unbiased as possible. Now, if nothing else, you can't fault me for giving your guy a listen in person and hearing his viewpoint literally face to face.
Those of you who are Ron Paul supporters who are honest brokers in his ideas need to do the same if given the opportunity to see other candidates other than Ron Paul. At least except your own challenge as I did. It won't hurt anything. Go in as I did and try to be open minded, if for no other reason than to cement your own opinions about your guy.
I've always said I was open to both sides of the story, but wasn't given the benefit of the doubt by most. Now, you can't complain. Take your own advice.
As a side note, this was a good time my wife, daughter and I had. It was especially good for my daughter. It exposed her to political viewpoints free of weirdness (mostly) and din an up close and personal way. She asked many questions about America's political process. It was not only a learning experience, but a good time for our family.